Web Strategy By Jeremiah Owyang - Latest Comments in Forrester Report: Online Community Best Practices

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website builder — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:22:15 -0000

What do you mean? This is an English website so you are supposed to speak English.

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Steve — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 12:59:33 -0000

With respect to ROI, one of the great "soft" returns I usually point out are ways to move the needle in the right direction when it comes to colleague engagement. Many companies are struggling with poor Gallup scores year-over-year, and just engaging the workforce through community sites (social networks, blog/discussion forums, idea management sites, wikis) can be a great (and low-cost) way to increase engagement.

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jeremiah_owyang — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:12:07 -0000

Ben

We often measure by activity in the last 30 days. The specific metrics to measure your success will vary on your objective. You've forgotten to mention quite a few other attributes such as interaction, number of comments, influence, and perhaps very importantly: sentiment and tone.

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Ben Bloch — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:18:55 -0000

I appreciate the sharing of some of this report (I am not a subscriber). Can you provide any additional information about what metrics that were used to define "member activity"? Or do I need to buy the report?

The specific metrics are key in my view - both in terms of measuring ultimate sucess but also to advance the community across the lifecycle stages. For example, which are the right metrics to target for each stage - e.g. # hits, # inbound links, # return visits, etc? And how does one set the right target values for a given community?

Thanks again - happy to blog about.

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Carol Wolinsky — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:37:13 -0000

The DC Chapter of the American Marketing Association has a Market Research Special Interest Group. In the coming year, we would like to host a brown bag or evening session about online communities for about 50 people. Would you or someone else from Forrester be able to present findings or case studies in such a forum?

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Carol Wolinsky — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:35:20 -0000

The Market Research SIG of the Washington, DC chapter of the American Marketing Association is considering a brown bag lunch about online communities. Would you or someone else from Forrester be available to share findings or provide a few case studies about success stories?

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Shell Smith — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 11:50:39 -0000

Thank you for posting this information. I found that your heading "Communities Are A Powerful Tool, As Long As You Put Members’ Needs First" grabbed my attention more then anything else. I recently watched an interview with Fox Business and the president of a company called Mindshare. It was VERY interesting to me - and made me think a little harder on how important it is to create GOOD buzz from your customers, and not the negative buzz that seems to be everywhere as companies continue to downgrade their customer service.

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Emil — Fri, 23 May 2008 20:52:32 -0000

Hello,

My name is Emil Sarnogoev, I'm Skalfa eCommerce, a social tech
company, http://www.skalfa.com/

I believe we just launched something your readers would like to know
about - a free hosted social network site builder that allows to build
a convincing community home within like 10 minutes.

Feel free to take a look at http://wackwall.com/

Our coverage: http://www.skalfa.com/press...

As I noted in the post, the service is early beta and we are working
on the overall integrity non-stop. There are also features to be
developed. In current state though it gives a good idea of what we are
about. Second look also demonstrates users' benefits of managing their
multi-network presence at one place.

I would love to answer your questions if you have any. We want to
improve so I appreciate any feedback, commentary, and analysis that
your blog is famous for.

Thanks in advance,
Emil

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David Casalini — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 12:53:15 -0000

I read your report and appreciated it a lot.

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Jake McKee — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:23:42 -0000

Thanks for the invitation to participate. I can't wait to read the report!

@24. Jeremy Toeman - while the technical and interaction dynamics of something like the Tivo forum vs. twitter vs. a blog might be different in various ways, at the core the social dynamics of people grouping up share more similarities than differences.

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Susanne — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 02:37:55 -0000

Hallo Sonya,

sind wir zufällig Kunde von Forrester?

Viele Grüße
Susanne

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Andrew Reid — Sun, 17 Feb 2008 05:47:56 -0000

Jeremiah,

I really appreciate the effort you take to review and cover the social media 'space'. I consider myself a contrarian, meaning I'm more sceptical than most about the 'upside' to social media, at least from a commercial perspective. I do my own research into this space, with a specific focus on the Australian market (www.victrixmedia.com.au).

One concept I have developed is the Id Index, which categorises social media types, which in turn determines their effectiveness as an advertising/marketing vehicle.

I would appreciate feedback from you or your readers re: this concept. I think we all have an obligation to question the validity of any technology, no matter how painful the findings.

Regards,
AR

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Karen O'Brien — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 19:15:56 -0000

Hi Jeremiah - great report!

I like the conceptual model of "Life Process of a Successful Community" and would add to that that the hockey-stick growth isn't always so consistent. Most of the high-activity communities that I have helped to create have been more of an upward growth with large spikes of activity that were in direct relationship with major product and/ or marketing initiatives. Often, communities are unprepared to deal with increased community activity spikes and all of the associated needs that accompany it (site performance, moderation needs, spammers, increased support, etc).

On the other side of the coin are companies that believe that "if we build it, they will come" and we know that successful communities require planning, management and marketing commitment.

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Jesse Tayler — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 13:01:32 -0000

Keep up the passion! There is more to be learned about the process of socialization online, building great community and of course, establishing a great technology vehicle for it than you'll be able to blog in ten years! It's a really rich and fascinating topic.

The branding and messaging value you describe is really just coming into view to the average enterprise. This idea has really just taken hold this year, so you're on the cutting edge! A few years ago, the ideas you present just wouldn't have made sense to many people.

Great work!

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jeremiah_owyang — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:54:15 -0000

Thanks Tony

The goal I'm trying to is to demonstrate my passion over this topic, I guess if folks need more help, they know they can always ask for my time as an analyst to really dig in.

We've a whole team of social media experts standing by ready to help if need be.

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Tony H — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:50:08 -0000

Jeremiah -
Not to take the conversation in too far of a different direction, but I like the marketing aspect of what you just did. You've used the site to build an active following and for many old-school "info-media" companies done something anathema: given "content" away for free (your posts).

Coming from one of those old-school info-media companies that struggles with this type

It's certainly been said before, but these types of activities (community building, free content) are going to be the future of marketing for many companies. Moving beyond the canned whitepaper or brutal cold-calling, customers are going to flock to companies that provide value as part of the conversation that results in a sale. These companies that paradoxically give things away are going to reap the benefits in increased sales.

Out of curiosity - it'd be neat to see if your report's two week sales outperform other new report's over the same period (two weeks post launch).

-Tony

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jeremiah_owyang — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:17:19 -0000

Yes, we did look at Tivo Community for different research. Also, you'll remember I started and managed the community for Hitachi's Data Storage products. http://forums.hds.com/

Can you give some specifics on how a product based community is different than any other community?

They both have interactions, and people gathered around focused on similar interests.

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Jeremy Toeman — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:04:44 -0000

'“does the report in any way address online communities for physical products”

Yes. Since communities are about people first, it doesn’t matter what the products (or services are)'

Uh, I vehemently disagree. Has your team specifically looked at communities for, say, devices? Ilounge, Slingcommunity, AVSForum, TivoCommunity, etc? They are *VASTLY* different than a Twitter community. They grow differently, they converse differently, they are very dissimilar, and should not be lumped into the same bucket, at all.

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Warren Ackerman — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:02:01 -0000

Jeremiah said:

"There comes a point in every company where online social communities will just normalize, and everyone will say ‘duh’ this is no-brainer, improving communication with customers is a core function of every company."

This gets at a point I've been trying (somewhat unsuccessfully) to articulate for a few months - online communities are simply the next iteration of customer communications.

Phone > Direct mail > Corporate Website > Email > Blog > Customer Community.

The communications leap that comes with community is that it's 3-way communications (Company to Customer, Customer to Company and Customer to Customer).

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jeremiah_owyang — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 06:05:38 -0000

@Trevor

"Specifically you call to show management the ROI of an online community. My question is how to quantify such an intangible effect as building a strong community."

Great question, In the ROI section of the report, I spell out costs on left and benefits on right, you can make predictions on the values at the start of the project and fill it out in specifics as you move forward in real time.

There comes a point in every company where online social communities will just normalize, and everyone will say 'duh' this is no-brainer, improving communication with customers is a core function of every company.

It's just like email a few years ago, scary at first, but we no longer measure the value of email, we just know it's place and value.

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jeremiah_owyang — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:58:19 -0000

@Jeremy Toeman

"does the report in any way address online communities for physical products"

Yes. Since communities are about people first, it doesn't matter what the products (or services are)

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Trevor Speirs — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 02:01:51 -0000

Jeremiah,
I was able to access the report through my MBA library. My question is that you talk about influencing senior management. Specifically you call to show management the ROI of an online community. My question is how to quantify such an intangible effect as building a strong community. I intuitively understand the benefits, but I am having trouble quantifying the benefits.
I am thinking from the position of establishing a new online community strategy in a company that does not have one. It will be very hard to quantify in this situation, yet it will be one of our most important sells.
Overall great effort! Keep up the great work!

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nickchhan — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:30:19 -0000

Thanks Jeremiah, this is indeed very interesting. I founded an interest group community in 2005, non profit. And you are indeed very right that;

"First of all, many companies have a hard time being successful with their community if they want to control it too tight. The most successful companies let go of the control and acted more like a host, rather than a policeman. Secondly, many companies had a hard time kick-starting a community, just because you build it, doesn’t mean they’ll come."

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Jeremy Toeman — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 23:54:35 -0000

Just to check - does the report in any way address online communities for physical products (e.g. consumer electronics devices)? Would be curious to compare against some of the services we've offered...

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Adam Metz — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:19:22 -0000

This slide at the top will defintely be circulated among my clients. Unrealistic expectations can really hurt any branded social network initiative (especially the often-doomed efforts that center around the brand, rather than engaging, utilitarian content). As usual, great stuff, JO and Co. Happy V-Day to you and yours.